Robin Wall Kimmerer's 2013 best-selling book, Braiding Sweetgrass catalyzed a shift in climate change discourse among scientists, lawmakers, and laypeople. Acknowledging this at a recent discussion hosted by Humanities New York, Kelsey Leonard—a water scientist and fellow policy change-maker—nonetheless wondered if a fundamental tenet of the book had not been deliberately misinterpreted to the detriment of Indigenous wisdom?Read the excerpt from this portion of the interview, and find the full video below.

In contrast to the downbeat timbre of most climate change discourse, Robin Wall Kimmerer and Kelsey Leonard's conversation rang with positivity, impressing the importance of keeping our eyes opened to possibility rather than probability, and our ears attuned to the lessons that nature offers freely.Watch the full conversation here.